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Shawn Ruby's avatar

Really great stuff, man. All those progressive cultures died from what I'd seen. I'm not really sure how they are now, but the pseudoromantic pop music of the 00s (it is romantic, but it was extremely corporate and mostly for middle upper class bourgeois who could travel like eat, pray, love stuff), the weird mythologizing of foreign languages thing, Ted talks and all that, i haven't seen how they've developed. They're definitely in the periphery. I do miss those survival shows that were on TV, but, again, not ascendant. You make a good point about music too. I'm not conservative at all, not liberal, progressive, but the aristocracy did a good job upholding a conservative appreciation of culture and music. Our conservatives are influenced more by rousseau. I think that the negative ideology thing, like distrusting all government institutions, until the hippies disliked the police and military, except said institutions is probably because they've just been underserved ideologically. They don't really have a governing ideology so they engage less "intellectually". The liberals have instead had their romantic streaks extremely developed. I'm not pro or against monarchy, but I think there's something possible for that conservative development.

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D.A. Nicholls's avatar

Glad you included this, because it was gnawing (if lightly) at me:

“Big Idea books are, of course, less sophisticated than actual literature, the classics, or the Bible. The minority of conservatives who are intellectually oriented tend to read and talk about these kinds of books…”

But I sympathize very much with this (though I am not set up quite this way), and wonder if this is what is underneath a lot of complaints I hear in artistic circles, that they often feel out of place in the Church (in terms of its surrounding, congregant-level culture) while being committed to it and very at home with its (historical and theoretical, often, rather than local) openness to art and beauty.

I appreciate the clarity of insight here, personally and culturally. Delineates some things I’ve seen but had not wrestled down to a conclusion.

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