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KAM's avatar

"The point is to pray for their well-being...."

I don't see prayer for their well-being as distinct from prayer for recognition of their errors, much less as opposed to it. Because that recognition is essential to their well-being, just as such recognition is necessary to my own flourishing in life. I confess my sins every day. Some days I even mean it. Some days I even see change, a little.

And as Solzhenitsyn says in "Repentance and the Self-Limitation of Nations" (see excerpts: https://fliphtml5.com/cvft/jpag/basic), every nation, too, must repent. Truth and reconciliation.

While I'm proud of my country, I'm ashamed of my country. Both. I own the bad with the good.

(People who can see only the bad should get out more. E.g., the West African country of Mauritania officially outlawed slavery in 1981. Unofficially, it still exists there.)

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Catherine Caldwell-Harris's avatar

Hi Connor. I really relate to: "I even nurse a lingering pride in the United States." I'm a traditional leftist in many ways, as you know, and I do believe that the "US is, after all, an imperialist genocidal settler-colonial tyranny." But that's only once side of the US. ,US has so many missions. Some of the missions are to stamp out out indigenous cultures, LGBTQ+ people, and the polar ice caps, but at the same time, the US has those positive missions we learned about in pulic school.

I have a lot of pride in the US. Want to make this country actually be the shining beacon on a hill, not just try to be some of the time.

Agree:

"But I can’t help it. My ancestors helped to settle and fought to found this country. " Many of my ancestors were slave owners; many fought in the Confederate Army. I even know the name of my ancestors' plantation in Tenessee (one of them wrote a book about it in the 1890s; part of the Civil War Era literature that eventually culminated in Gone with the Wind).

Humans aren't one thing. Humanity has many sides to it. Our ancestors who did things we don't agree with had their good and not so good sides. Our enemies are human. Dehumanizing has to stop.

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